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Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:19:00 - [1] - Quote And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 14:29:00 - [2] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Are you Godin? Depends, am I, am I not? Is this the matrix? Are you Neo?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote Argetlam Thorson wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB The only seriously effective AV FG is the Breach. This means that I get one shot every 6 seconds and am immobilized in between shots. You get a shot (pretty close damage per shot) every, what, 3/4 of a second, you can move, you get a larger mag, and have more HP. My Jihad Jeep is the most effective AV option I have. Deal with it. That argument died already. Catch up.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 19:44:00 - [4] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Because Tanks suck Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Yes I'm mad, deal with it. No, you deal with it.[/thread] neither of these are arguments whatsoever.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 21:42:00 - [5] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. I've gotten a total of 65 kills doing it. I call bullshit.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:01:00 - [6] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 22:04:00 - [7] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB That is a legit kill and rightfully so. Takes time to prep and it's trickier on bumpy terrain than you can imagine. It actually gives my tanker alt good laughs everytime it gets killed by JLAV. That's not too often as in many cases they can be popped even by small arms. About the same amount of lols in that case. That's part of the brilliance that is New Eden, that is Dust. It takes much longer to get iSK up for my HAV, invalid, and no, it isn't; stop using scrubby Cal vehicles. Also I noticed the word alt, as it's not your main thing, you do it for shitz and giggles......... kk, Not taking you serious. EDIT: ramming **** has nothing to do with New Eden wonders.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.23 23:56:00 - [8] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Same argument as ramship vs ADS, groundwise . The tools are there, except countering such tactics is tough and require complete attention on the task. Most of the time , vehicle users have infantry kill farming as priority over vehicle countering. DS ramming always needed to go. And no, it's the fact that unlike infantry, we can't do 360's in .0000001 seconds all day long. Hell, turning a HAV is awkward as is.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 366	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:00:00 - [9] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: You're just butt-hurt because people are popping your mobile murder fortress without an opportunity for your to flee and/or ultra rep. Sorry I interrupted you mowing people down with reckless abandon and running away once the swarms and FG blasts start flying. I never said I had any problem (as far as I've seen in bravo) for AV, I clearly made it aware that it was only about JLAV's. Also, never used the 3x rep AV settup, as it seemed silly to me, I mean damn, rails were (and still to an extent with proto damage mods on a particle cannon) ganking me in three shots as is, so why would I make it 2? Lastly, I only shoot at infantry if there's nothing better to shoot at. Are you okay sir? as you clearly are having issues with reading.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:16:00 - [10] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:30:00 - [11] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: JLAVs are AV. I never said anything about 3x reps, specifically. I said tankers don't want to have to contend with an AV tactic like JLAVs because it's not something they can flee/rep from. So the occasional tank/installation, then? Cause infantry is so rare to run into, right? It's unavoidable, and it instantly kills you, no matter how much tank you got. It also can be absolutely free, and if not free, real damn cheap. It's ***** broken, and you know it. This isn't the "Spirit of New Eden", this is just broken **. they are not unavoidable, and they are easy to killl quit whining noob You were whining about railguns not being OP cannons anymore. Also I've been playing before you even knew about dust. You are the noob in this situation. And yes, they are unavoidable.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:41:00 - [12] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And yes, they are unavoidable. They're not. I just stated several ways how they can be avoided, and that's not even ALL the ways. Let's see: 1- destroying a LAV is neigh impossible with a nitro equipped, and just straight up impossible when a hardener is also added. 2- driving away isn't going to happen either, as by the time you see it, it's already too late. you have to be lucky and already be moving to have a chance, and that's if it's behind you, in which nitro and denied. 3- Gallente LAV's have not much of any trouble on "bumpy terrains", so there's that. 4- And that matters why? 30k vs. 500k, or free vs. 500k. it doesn't add up at all. Period.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:42:00 - [13] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob Dust didn't exist in 2004. I call bullshit.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:49:00 - [14] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob "Railguns are broken" reads in english to: "I can't 3 shot a guy, so now I can't kill anything, because I suck" Anyways, let me tell you all that's wrong with that: Your situational awareness requires you to be looking for targets, correct? Well, then, there's two things wrong with that: 1: Can't look for JLAV's while being shot at 2: Can't rapidly look around a vehicle 24/7 like infantry can, as turret speed is locked Also add in the fact that due to the nature of blasters, you have to be close to the enemy to actually hit them, therefore being in their area of control a lot, you're prone to being insta ganked by a JLAV. And no, I know they are coming, I can't do anything about it 99% of the time.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:50:00 - [15] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: iv also known abut dust since 2004 so yeah stick with it noob Dust didn't exist in 2004. I call bullshit. i got a magazine with a promo add back when the first came up with the concept. Dust wan't even a concept until 09. They didn't even start thinking of a second game until 06. I still call bullshit.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 367	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:52:00 - [16] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Get some situational awareness, and sorry (not sorry) that Dust isn't pay to win. 1: You don't understand what p2w is. 2: I have more than you. And even then, like it matters; sIr, I've tested this several times (65 to be exact now). It's just ungodly broken.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:01:00 - [17] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: And I ask why. Quite literally why. Why are they still in the game? They are no way in hell a legit kill, and it's no way in hell a fair kill. AV is much better than before (actually usable by noobs, which is why most of you wanted to keep it), so I ask, why in the hell is it still here? Yes I'm mad, deal with it. BLUB jihad jeeps are fun and clever... and not so easy to pull off on a skilled tanker. and still one of a few very limited effective AV options. Fun for you, 500k out per ramming for me, and that's not fun. It must be fun for both parties, and it should be fair for both parties. It's super easy to do, you seem so suffer from being a bluedot if you think it's hard. insults only weaken your position... is it easier than slaughtering infantry with no av on the field? oh and btw if you are pulling out a 500 k tank in a pub you have no room to call out others for being scrubs... just saying... JLAV =/= AV JLAV = broken tactic that for some reason infantry won't let go that should have never existed. And no, I enjoy actual AV, as they give myself a challenge. JLAV's does no such thing; only brings rage. By the way, where else am I supposed to pull a 500k (my only HAV fit) out then?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:02:00 - [18] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Should such a limit be impossible to add in, I would remove it completely and have re only stick to non friendly surfaces like walls and hostile vehicles. That is fine by me.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 368	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:04:00 - [19] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: railguns are broken, there is no reason to field one idiot. i have a valid reason to complain about them, ur whining about something killig you because your situational awareness is at a noob level, learn to pay attention before you cry about kamikaze cars insta poping ur tank, its no worse than a detroyer sucide ganking a t2 mining barge, if the barge pilot pays attntion he wont get ganked. quit being a noob "Railguns are broken" reads in english to: "I can't 3 shot a guy, so now I can't kill anything, because I suck" Anyways, let me tell you all that's wrong with that: Your situational awareness requires you to be looking for targets, correct? Well, then, there's two things wrong with that: 1: Can't look for JLAV's while being shot at 2: Can't rapidly look around a vehicle 24/7 like infantry can, as turret speed is locked Also add in the fact that due to the nature of blasters, you have to be close to the enemy to actually hit them, therefore being in their area of control a lot, you're prone to being insta ganked by a JLAV. And no, I know they are coming, I can't do anything about it 99% of the time. lol, sounds like u suk if u get killed by kamikaze cars 99% of the time, they are free points to me i kill 7/9 idiots who try to kamikaze me, the railguns are made to kill tanks and other vehicles and if i cant kill a standard tank with my adv railgun in under 5 shots its broken, tell me how am i supposed to kill a tripple rep tank with in 250m without missing a shot and if i do miss just one shot he reps all the damage i just did, and keepin mind they target gets a 100% speed boost to increase my chances of missing casing me to overheat?? it would be different if we had more than 2 useful modules to fit to a tank No, I do not, yet when I do, it's the most bullshit death that can occur to me (second is AI turrets sniping across the map). I don't like to die to bullshit.